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RFD: humanities.language.sanskrit

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
            unmoderated group humanities.language.sanskrit

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of a new
worldwide UseNet newsgroup, humanities.language.sanskrit.

Proponents: HGroo…@Qualitas.com (Henry Groover)
            Shrisha….@launchpad.unc.edu (Shrisha Rao)

Mentor: mcc…@best.com (Todd Michel McComb)

Newsgroups line:
humanities.language.sanskrit  The Sanskrit language and related topics.

RATIONALE: humanities.language.sanskrit

Sanskrit is an Indo-European language of ancient origins, like Latin,
ancient Greek, and Persian. Unlike many other ancient languages, however,
it has had an unbroken tradition of both literary and everyday usage,
lasting right up to the present day.

A study of Sanskrit is very useful for those interested in understanding
Hinduism; it is also important to those who study Paninian linguistics,
Vedanta, Indology, the development of Indo-European languages and
cultures, etc. Besides all these, of course, Sanskrit has a vast body of
prose, poetry, drama, and music, of genuine literary worth, that is of
much interest to many scholars and amateurs.

There exists a Sanskrit e-mail discussion group that generates a fairly
high volume of messages — 50+ per day — and has in excess of 300 members
who are potential readers of such a newsgroup. It may also be safely
assumed that there are others not on the list who would also like to see
such a newsgroup come about.

CHARTER: humanities.language.sanskrit

The newsgroup humanities.language.sanskrit will be a forum devoted to the
discussion of all matters pertaining to the formal or informal study of
Sanskrit, both as a literary and scriptural language, and also as a
language for common use. The newsgroup will not be solely for those
already knowledgeable about Sanskrit, but will also give those interested
in it an opportunity to learn by interaction. While there will be no
restriction on the range of Sanskrit-related topics allowed, those that
have nothing to do either with Sanskrit itself, or with issues in the
study of Sanskrit, will be strongly discouraged.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

The posting of this RFD initiates a discussion of at least three weeks’
(21 days’) duration. The discussion is restricted to news.groups only;
do not discuss this on other newsgroups. At the end of that time, a
neutral party, the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) will post a Call
For Votes (CFV) containing detailed instructions. Do not confuse this
RFD with a CFV; the voting will not commence until later.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is cross-posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, soc.culture.indian,
soc.culture.german, alt.religion.vaisnava, sci.lang, humanities.misc

This message will also be sent to the following mailing lists after
the RFD has appeared in news.announce.newgroups.

1. Sanskrit mailing list <sansk…@keshav.informix.com>
2. Indology mailing list <indol…@liverpool.ac.uk>
3. NLPAsia-L mailing list <nlpasi…@nectec.or.th>
4. Indo-European list <INDOEUROPEA…@cornell.edu>

Follow-ups have been directed to news.groups. Please honor that, and
keep the discussion to news.groups only.

== end ==

posted by admin in Uncategorized and have Comments (5)






5 Responses to “RFD: humanities.language.sanskrit”

  1. admin says:

                         FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group humanities.language.sanskrit

    Newsgroups line:
    humanities.language.sanskrit    The Sanskrit language and related topics.

    Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Dec 1995.

    This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
    about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

    Proponent: Shrisha Rao <Shrisha….@launchpad.unc.edu>
    Proponent: Henry Groover <HGroo…@Qualitas.com>
    Mentor:    Todd Michel McComb <mcc…@best.com>
    Votetaker: Steve Bonine <s…@ntrs.com>

    RATIONALE: humanities.language.sanskrit

    Sanskrit is an Indo-European language of ancient origins, like Latin,
    ancient Greek, and Persian. Unlike many other ancient languages, however,
    it has had an unbroken tradition of both literary and everyday usage,
    lasting right up to the present day.

    A study of Sanskrit is very useful for those interested in understanding
    Hinduism; it is also important to those who study Paninian linguistics,
    Vedanta, Indology, the development of Indo-European languages and
    cultures, etc. Besides all these, of course, Sanskrit has a vast body of
    prose, poetry, drama, and music, of genuine literary worth, that is of
    much interest to many scholars and amateurs.

    There used to be a Sanskrit e-mail discussion group that generated a high
    enough volume of messages to cause it to be shut down because of the
    excessive load it was creating on its host system. The list had about 380
    members who are potential readers of such a newsgroup; it may also be
    safely assumed that there are others who were not on the list, but would
    also like to see such a newsgroup come about.

    CHARTER: humanities.language.sanskrit

    The newsgroup humanities.language.sanskrit will be a forum devoted to the
    discussion of all matters pertaining to the formal or informal study of
    Sanskrit, both as a literary and scriptural language, and also as a
    language for common use. The newsgroup will not be solely for those
    already knowledgeable about Sanskrit, but will also give those interested
    in it an opportunity to learn by interaction. While there will be no
    restriction on the range of Sanskrit-related topics allowed, those that
    have nothing to do either with Sanskrit itself, or with issues in the
    study of Sanskrit, will be strongly discouraged.

    END CHARTER.

    HOW TO VOTE:

    You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:

          vot…@ntrs.com

    Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message must contain
    one and only one of the following vote statements for each group:

          I vote YES on humanities.language.sanskrit
          I vote NO on humanities.language.sanskrit

    You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  These votes are not counted in the
    results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result.

    Names are required for this vote.  The counting software will extract your name
    from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail
    software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following
    statement and add your name (on the same line).

         Voter name:

    Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that
    your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of
    your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  IT’S YOUR
    RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY.

    If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account;
    duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote.

    THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE.  Names, addresses, and votes will be published in
    a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears.

    The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons
    who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested
    parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must,
    direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
    Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in
    doubt, ask the votetaker.

    Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be
    mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy
    votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be
    anonymous votes.

    DISTRIBUTION:

    In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV
    and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists:

    Sanskrit mailing list     sansk…@cs.utah.edu
    Indology mailing list     indol…@liverpool.ac.uk
    NLPAsia-L mailing list    nlpasi…@nectec.or.th
    Indo-European list        INDOEUROPEA…@cornell.edu

  2. admin says:

                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group humanities.language.sanskrit

    Newsgroups line:
    humanities.language.sanskrit    The Sanskrit language and related topics.

    Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Dec 1995.

    This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
    about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

    Proponent: Shrisha Rao <Shrisha….@launchpad.unc.edu>
    Proponent: Henry Groover <HGroo…@Qualitas.com>
    Mentor:    Todd Michel McComb <mcc…@best.com>
    Votetaker: Steve Bonine <s…@ntrs.com>

    RATIONALE: humanities.language.sanskrit

    Sanskrit is an Indo-European language of ancient origins, like Latin,
    ancient Greek, and Persian. Unlike many other ancient languages, however,
    it has had an unbroken tradition of both literary and everyday usage,
    lasting right up to the present day.

    A study of Sanskrit is very useful for those interested in understanding
    Hinduism; it is also important to those who study Paninian linguistics,
    Vedanta, Indology, the development of Indo-European languages and
    cultures, etc. Besides all these, of course, Sanskrit has a vast body of
    prose, poetry, drama, and music, of genuine literary worth, that is of
    much interest to many scholars and amateurs.

    There used to be a Sanskrit e-mail discussion group that generated a high
    enough volume of messages to cause it to be shut down because of the
    excessive load it was creating on its host system. The list had about 380
    members who are potential readers of such a newsgroup; it may also be
    safely assumed that there are others who were not on the list, but would
    also like to see such a newsgroup come about.

    CHARTER: humanities.language.sanskrit

    The newsgroup humanities.language.sanskrit will be a forum devoted to the
    discussion of all matters pertaining to the formal or informal study of
    Sanskrit, both as a literary and scriptural language, and also as a
    language for common use. The newsgroup will not be solely for those
    already knowledgeable about Sanskrit, but will also give those interested
    in it an opportunity to learn by interaction. While there will be no
    restriction on the range of Sanskrit-related topics allowed, those that
    have nothing to do either with Sanskrit itself, or with issues in the
    study of Sanskrit, will be strongly discouraged.

    END CHARTER.

    HOW TO VOTE:

    You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:

          vot…@ntrs.com

    Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message must contain
    one and only one of the following vote statements for each group:

          I vote YES on humanities.language.sanskrit
          I vote NO on humanities.language.sanskrit

    You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  These votes are not counted in the
    results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result.

    Names are required for this vote.  The counting software will extract your name
    from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail
    software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following
    statement and add your name (on the same line).

         Voter name:

    Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that
    your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of
    your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  IT’S YOUR
    RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY.

    If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account;
    duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote.

    THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE.  Names, addresses, and votes will be published in
    a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears.

    The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons
    who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested
    parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must,
    direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
    Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in
    doubt, ask the votetaker.

    Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be
    mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy
    votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be
    anonymous votes.

    DISTRIBUTION:

    In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the first CFV
    and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists:

    Sanskrit mailing list     sansk…@cs.utah.edu
    Indology mailing list     indol…@liverpool.ac.uk
    NLPAsia-L mailing list    nlpasi…@nectec.or.th
    Indo-European list        INDOEUROPEA…@cornell.edu

    humanities.language.sanskrit Bounce List – No need to revote
    ——————————————————————————
    pr…@ford.com                                                    Prashant Rao
    sreng…@ford.com                                           Sampath Rengarajan
    sxs7…@njit.edu                                                   Ram Prasadu

  3. admin says:

                                    RESULT
         unmoderated group humanities.language.sanskrit passes 369:24

    There were 369 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 393 valid votes.
    There was 1 abstain and 16 invalid ballots.

    For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
    votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

    There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
    serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
    news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

    Newsgroups line:
    humanities.language.sanskrit    The Sanskrit language and related topics.

    Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Dec 1995.

    This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
    about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

    Proponent: Shrisha Rao <Shrisha….@launchpad.unc.edu>
    Proponent: Henry Groover <HGroo…@Qualitas.com>
    Mentor:    Todd Michel McComb <mcc…@best.com>
    Votetaker: Steve Bonine <s…@ntrs.com>

    RATIONALE: humanities.language.sanskrit

    Sanskrit is an Indo-European language of ancient origins, like Latin,
    ancient Greek, and Persian. Unlike many other ancient languages, however,
    it has had an unbroken tradition of both literary and everyday usage,
    lasting right up to the present day.

    A study of Sanskrit is very useful for those interested in understanding
    Hinduism; it is also important to those who study Paninian linguistics,
    Vedanta, Indology, the development of Indo-European languages and
    cultures, etc. Besides all these, of course, Sanskrit has a vast body of
    prose, poetry, drama, and music, of genuine literary worth, that is of
    much interest to many scholars and amateurs.

    There used to be a Sanskrit e-mail discussion group that generated a high
    enough volume of messages to cause it to be shut down because of the
    excessive load it was creating on its host system. The list had about 380
    members who are potential readers of such a newsgroup; it may also be
    safely assumed that there are others who were not on the list, but would
    also like to see such a newsgroup come about.

    CHARTER: humanities.language.sanskrit

    The newsgroup humanities.language.sanskrit will be a forum devoted to the
    discussion of all matters pertaining to the formal or informal study of
    Sanskrit, both as a literary and scriptural language, and also as a
    language for common use. The newsgroup will not be solely for those
    already knowledgeable about Sanskrit, but will also give those interested
    in it an opportunity to learn by interaction. While there will be no
    restriction on the range of Sanskrit-related topics allowed, those that
    have nothing to do either with Sanskrit itself, or with issues in the
    study of Sanskrit, will be strongly discouraged.

    END CHARTER.

    humanities.language.sanskrit Final Vote Ack

    Voted Yes
    ——————————————————————————
    100725.3…@compuserve.com                                 Clemens Stiglechner
    100734.2…@compuserve.com                                  Hans-Georg Turstig
    102054.1…@compuserve.com                             Subbaiah Cherumandanda.
    71125…@compuserve.com                                      Miodrag Trajkovic
    72750.3…@compuserve.com                                          Dan Kinnard
    75240.2…@compuserve.com                                     Alain-Jean PARES
    95PAN…@tsunami.scar.utoronto.ca                                 Aruna Panday
    A.Lah…@sussex.ac.uk                                          Amitabha Lahiri
    A.Ra…@massey.ac.nz                                         Anand Venkt Raman
    a…@Lehigh.EDU                                     ARATI AMRITLAL SHAH-YUKICH
    ab…@gtenet.com                                                   Abhay Patil
    abhya…@plk.af.mil                                        Nandakish Abhyankar
    abir…@chemeng.iisc.ernet.in                                  ABIRAMI SUNDARI
    acab…@ax.ibase.org.br                                         Adilson Cabral
    ACH…@msuvx2.memphis.edu                                   B.N.Narahari Achar
    ACYS…@chollian.dacom.co.kr                                   choi young shin
    a…@sour.sw.oz.au                                               Andrew Gollan
    ado…@engineer.mrg.uswest.com                                     Aruna Donde
    ae…@freenet.carleton.ca                                          Nigel Allen
    ag…@freenet.carleton.ca                                       Colin R. Leech
    ag…@daimi.aau.dk                                       Carsten Kalles| Agger
    aghos…@eng2.uconn.edu                                        Anindya Ghoshal
    ahu…@iupucs.iupui.edu                                            Anand Hudli
    a…@everest.tandem.com                                            Ajit Dongre
    akkar…@corp.cirrus.com                                     Srinivas Akkaraju
    akluj…@unixg.ubc.ca                                           Ashok Aklujkar
    a…@acsu.Buffalo.edu                                        Ajit K Ranganathan
    ak…@loc201.tandem.com                                        krishnamurthy_a
    akr…@oslonett.no                                              Arne Knut Roev
    alder…@netcom.com                                    Richard M. Alderson III
    amagd…@nyx10.cs.du.edu                                        Andy Magdeburg
    anan…@wipro.com                                             Ananda Rajagopal
    anant…@ecn.purdue.edu                                     Satish Ananthaiyer
    and…@golter.demon.co.uk                                     Andrew Hoddinott
    a…@ichips.intel.com                                        Anil M. Paranjape
    apan…@u.washington.edu                                       Anshuman Pandey
    a…@cs.Buffalo.EDU                                             Ajay P Nerurkar
    aq…@lafn.org                                                    Bon Giovanni
    AR…@delphi.com                                                Ananth S. Rani
    ar…@epix.net                                              Swami Tadatmananda
    ar…@sci.fi                                                   Antti Kivivalli
    a…@datacube.com                                                Arun K Dalmia
    asan…@hawk.stratacom.com                                        Aruna Sangli
    asarao…@sei-it.com                                             Anil Saraogee
    asdi…@midway.uchicago.edu                                         Amol Dighe
    a…@ie.utoronto.ca                                              Atin Kulkarni
    a…@yamuna.asd.sgi.com                                          Atul Narkhede
    bad…@cs.tamu.edu                                          Badarinath Devalla
    ba…@sofia.mae.cornell.edu                            Badrinarayanan Seshadri
    bain…@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu                                    Satyen Baindur
    baks…@pictel.com                                               Anupam Bakshi
    b…@falcon.tamucc.edu                                     M.K. Balasubramanya
    bal…@nexus.yorku.ca                                                   Balaji
    balog…@panix.com                                             George Baloglou
    Barti…@worldnet.att.net                                         Randall Bart
    benwb…@owlnet.rice.edu                                 Ben William Brumfield
    be…@berlin.snafu.de                                          Bernd Schaefers
    BHA…@ccvax.ucd.ie                                             Bharat Bhushan
    bill.d…@nashville.com                                              Bill Duke
    b…@herbison.com                                                 B.J. Herbison
    blu…@uia.ua.ac.be                                             Hermann.Bluhme
    bmi…@husc.harvard.edu                                            Bijoy Misra
    Bradley.C.Gayl…@att.com               Brad C. Gaylord, b…@drmail.dr.att.com
    b…@pollux.usc.edu                                                   Bapa Rao
    bro…@databank.com                                              Andrew Broman
    card…@unagi.cis.upenn.edu                                     George Cardona
    car…@PEAK.ORG                                                   Andrew Carey
    carl…@math.mit.edu                                             david carlton
    cha…@Glue.umd.edu                                               Vinay Chande
    chand…@umdnj.edu                                          Arun Chandrakantan
    ch…@ICSI.Net                                              Charles L Hamilton
    che…@informix.com                                              Chetan Pandya
    c…@m-net.arbornet.org                                      James H.Cuddeback
    co…@walrus.com                                           Jeffrey David Cohen
    con…@indy.net                                                   Nancy Conner
    crkre…@tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu                              Ramakrishna R. Chada
    c…@jupiter.wipro.com                                          C.S.Raghavendra
    c…@ukc.ac.uk                                              Charlotte Richards
    daks…@rpi.edu                                  Srikanteswara Dakshina Murthy
    damb…@s850.mwc.edu                                              David Ambuel
    dc…@cftnet.com                                                     Dave Cell
    dchak…@netserv.unmc.edu                                   Dhruba Chakravarti
    de…@nstl.com                                                  Deepa Kulkarni
    de…@tiac.net                                                   Deepa Ganesan
    deshm…@isip.msstate.edu                         Neeraj Deshmukh – The Falcon
    dgib…@husc.harvard.edu                                Diana Alexandra Gibson
    dhart…@mcs.com                                                Daniel Hartung
    dil…@fireant.ma.utexas.edu                                    Dileep Karanth
    d…@nevanest.spb.su                                               Dimka Shpaer
    d…@Lehigh.EDU        

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  4. admin says:

    In article <818135471.10…@uunet.uu.net>, Steve Bonine  <s…@ntrs.com> wrote:

    >                                RESULT
    >     unmoderated group humanities.language.sanskrit passes 369:24

    Thanks to all those who made the newsgroup possible — to all who
    supported the effort enthusiastically and voted for it; to Steve for
    conducting the vote and getting the result out within hours of its close;
    to Todd for his mentorship; most importantly, to Henry, for agreeing to be
    co-proponent and then doing the lion’s share of the work.

    Since the five-day discussion is likely to be a mere formality, perhaps
    the group will actually be created before Tale’s winter break starts on
    the 15th.

    Regards,

    Shrisha Rao

  5. admin says:

    In article <4a1347$…@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Shrisha….@launchpad.unc.edu (Shrisha Rao) writes:
    > Since the five-day discussion is likely to be a mere formality, perhaps
    > the group will actually be created before Tale’s winter break starts on
    > the 15th.

    No, the group won’t be created before the 5-day waiting period, but the
    news.announce.newgroups "vacation" does not affect the issuance of the control
    messages to create new groups.  The only thing that’s not done during this time
    is posting RFDs and first CFVs.


    Steve Bonine
    s…@ntrs.com