gsavo…@ucs.indiana.edu (Georgios Savopulos) writes:
> Orpheus (t…@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM) wrote:
> : But, mostly, I was wondering…I heard that there, in this relatively
> : new state called Macedonia (by the press?) and possibly in northern
> : Greece, people spoke a language–may be I just assumed it was called
> : "Macedonian" for lack of knowing a better name–but the Greek government
> : said "No, everyone there speaks Greek." I don’t even know if that
> : was an accurate press release.
> Actually:
> 1) Older Greeks usually call the language Bulgarian.
Then it must BE Bulgarian. ;^)
> 2) The speakers of the language (in Greece) call it ‘local’ not Macedonian.
Really? Is that "LOCAL" language the same as the LOCAL language in, say, Athens?
Or they don’t have a language named "LOCAL" there?
> : So, what do they speak?
> : How is it related/fixed in the Indo-European language family tree?
> : Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?
> Because the answer is not unique. There is a region called Macedonia
> where mixed populations of Slavs, Albanians and Greeks live.
Well, few have YET to declare themselves as "Slavs" in order for the
group to be recognized as "existent". I also noticed that you (accidentally?)
left out the ETHNIC MACEDONIANS (one of them which I am).
> The languages
> spoken there are Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian (+local dialects of these
> languages).
You also left out the MACEDONIAN language, Mr. Savopulos, and the dialects
thereof.
> Put all these under the Macedonian label and you get a mix of
> the Macedonian salad type…
Which is of course common for Macedonia only, while no "mixed"
salads whatsoever exist in Greece, Bulgaria and Albania. These
salads there, are all "pure" tomatoes, right? ;^)
> Georgios Savopulos
Cheers,
Zoran
;^)
ht…@geko.eng.monash.edu.au (Tsamaidis Harry)
> Zoran Mitrovski (zmit…@gauss.ee.rochester.edu) wrote:
> %That was pretty cool, Beavis. ;^)
> %So noone apart from the linguists and the rocks
> %can decide upon the existance of things.
> ———
> Since you are a politician, Zoran, you
> have even LESSER rights to dictate
> what is, and what isn’t.
Since you are not a linguist, I guess, it must be
because you are actually a ROCK, that you believe
that you can dictate upon "what is and what isn’t"
my right. ;^)
Cheers,
Zoran
;^)
Zoran Mitrovski (zmit…@faraday.ee.rochester.edu) wrote:
%ht…@geko.eng.monash.edu.au (Tsamaidis Harry)
%> Zoran Mitrovski (zmit…@gauss.ee.rochester.edu) wrote:
%>
%> %That was pretty cool, Beavis. ;^)
%> %So noone apart from the linguists and the rocks
%> %can decide upon the existance of things.
%> ———
%> Since you are a politician, Zoran, you
%> have even LESSER rights to dictate
%> what is, and what isn’t.
%Since you are not a linguist, I guess, it must be
%because you are actually a ROCK, that you believe
%that you can dictate upon "what is and what isn’t"
%my right. ;^)
——-
BRAVO!!! We have now mutually eliminated ourselves
from the argument.
NOW SHUT UP!
Zoran Mitrovski (zmit…@henry.ee.rochester.edu) wrote:
: > Actually:
: > 1) Older Greeks usually call the language Bulgarian.
: Then it must BE Bulgarian. ;^)
Yes, it does. The people in question were around for quite a while and
know more about the issue.
: > 2) The speakers of the language (in Greece) call it ‘local’ not Macedonian.
: Really? Is that "LOCAL" language the same as the LOCAL language in, say,
: Athens? Or they don’t have a language named "LOCAL" there?
Of course not ! Athenians speak Greek, not Bulgarian.
: > Because the answer is not unique. There is a region called Macedonia
: > where mixed populations of Slavs, Albanians and Greeks live.
: Well, few have YET to declare themselves as "Slavs" in order for the
: group to be recognized as "existent". I also noticed that you
: (accidentally?)
: left out the ETHNIC MACEDONIANS (one of them which I am).
No, I did not. That’s the Bulgarians that speak the local Bulgarian dialect.
You are one of them.
: > The languages
: > spoken there are Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian (+local dialects of these
: > languages).
: You also left out the MACEDONIAN language, Mr. Savopulos, and the dialects
: thereof.
See above.
: Cheers,
: Zoran
: ;^)
–
Georgios Savopulos
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