Could anyone recommend a good single-volume work on the Romance languages
in general or on Romance linguistics?
Direct replies via E-mail appreciated.
Merci! Grazie! !Gracias! Obrigado!
-Tom
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. Thomas W Tomlinson aka Tom, Hylas, Deep Purple . `Revelling in
. Vancouver, BC, Canada t…@mindlink.bc.ca. the Joy of
. URL: http://mindlink.bc.ca/twt (in progress) . Interconnectedness’
. Ecris-moi en francais! Parlo la lingua di Dante . (TM)
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In <75499-807293…@mindlink.bc.ca>, t…@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson) writes:
>Could anyone recommend a good single-volume work on the Romance languages
>in general or on Romance linguistics?
>Direct replies via E-mail appreciated.
>Merci! Grazie! !Gracias! Obrigado!
>-Tom
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> . Thomas W Tomlinson aka Tom, Hylas, Deep Purple . `Revelling in
> . Vancouver, BC, Canada t…@mindlink.bc.ca. the Joy of
> . URL: http://mindlink.bc.ca/twt (in progress) . Interconnectedness’
> . Ecris-moi en francais! Parlo la lingua di Dante . (TM)
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Adiu amic – you should learn Occitan, then…
There is a * GREAT * book edited by Routledge. I guess edited by some
Vincent, ca. 1988. Should be "the romance languages".
O podes crompar amb fisansa.
Coralament,
J.-F. BLANC
Tom W. Tomlinson (t…@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
: Could anyone recommend a good single-volume work on the Romance languages
: in general or on Romance linguistics?
: Direct replies via E-mail appreciated.
: Merci! Grazie! !Gracias! Obrigado!
.to add…. Gracies! Mult,umesc!
: -Tom
: —
: ……………………………………………
: . Thomas W Tomlinson aka Tom, Hylas, Deep Purple . `Revelling in
: . Vancouver, BC, Canada t…@mindlink.bc.ca. the Joy of
: . URL: http://mindlink.bc.ca/twt (in progress) . Interconnectedness’
: . Ecris-moi en francais! Parlo la lingua di Dante . (TM)
: ……………………………………………
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–Reid
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"I’ve always been in love with you.
I guess you’ve always known it’s true.
You took my love for granted, why, oh why?
This show is over, say goodbye."
Madonna, "Take A Bow"
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blan…@ibm.net wrote:
>Adiu amic – you should learn Occitan, then…
>Coralament,
>J.-F. BLANC
Long ago in another life I began my college career as a Spanish major,
and so acquired a passing acquaintance with the Romance language
family. But I’ve never heard of Occitan in that context or any other.
Can you relieve my ignorance?
Thanks,
Bud Rogers <budrog…@interramp.com>
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Though all my neighbors are barbarians
and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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Bud Rogers (budrog…@interramp.com) wrote:
: blan…@ibm.net wrote:
: >Adiu amic – you should learn Occitan, then…
: >Coralament,
: >J.-F. BLANC
: Long ago in another life I began my college career as a Spanish major,
: and so acquired a passing acquaintance with the Romance language
: family. But I’ve never heard of Occitan in that context or any other.
: Can you relieve my ignorance?
Occitan = modern Provencal or Langue d’Oc, as spoken in the Midi (south of
France). (Contrast modern French, correspondingly called Langue d’Oi"l.
Oc and Oi"l are representations of the way "yes" is supposedly rendered
in the two languages, oi"l for some reason being the orthographic
rendering for this purpose of the actual word "oui". "Oc" << Latin "hoc"
= "this"; "oui" << Latin "hoc ille" = more emphatic form of "this".)
I remember about 20 years ago Assimil had out a book Occitan Sans Peine.
I have no idea if it’s still in print.
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There is no such thing as bad data, only data from bad homes.
Bud Rogers (budrog…@interramp.com) wrote:
: blan…@ibm.net wrote:
: >Adiu amic – you should learn Occitan, then…
: >Coralament,
: >J.-F. BLANC
: Long ago in another life I began my college career as a Spanish major,
: and so acquired a passing acquaintance with the Romance language
: family. But I’ve never heard of Occitan in that context or any other.
: Can you relieve my ignorance?
: Thanks,
The term "Occitan" is used to describe all of the Southern Gaulo-Romance
languages and dialects (Provenc,al, for one). The word comes from the
distinction in the word "yes". French, and all its dialects are "Langue
D’Oi"l" and the Occitan, and all its dialects, are "Langue D’Oc".
A refresher of the major groups (as I see them…):
Portuguese (Continental, Brazilian, Galician, et al…)
Spanish (Castillan, Andaluz/Lat. Am., et al…)
Catalan (Barcelona, Valencia, Majorcan, et al…)
French (Wallonian, Parisian, et al…)
Occitan (Provenc,al, Limosine, et al…)
Italian (Florentine, Sicilian, et al…)
Sardinian
Rhaeto-Romansch (Romansch, et al…)
Romanian (Romanian, Aromanian, Moldovan, et al…)
Dalmatian [extinct language/dialects]
hope this helped…
: Bud Rogers <budrog…@interramp.com>
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: Though all my neighbors are barbarians
: and you are a thousand miles away,
: there are always two cups on my table.
: ————————————–
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–Reid
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"I’ve always been in love with you.
I guess you’ve always known it’s true.
You took my love for granted, why, oh why?
This show is over, say goodbye."
Madonna, "Take A Bow"
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In article <405u8b$…@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, peab…@wam.umd.edu (Tired
Royal Cone) wrote:
> A refresher of the major groups (as I see them…):
> Portuguese (Continental, Brazilian, Galician, et al…)
> Spanish (Castillan, Andaluz/Lat. Am., et al…)
> Catalan (Barcelona, Valencia, Majorcan, et al…)
> French (Wallonian, Parisian, et al…)
> Occitan (Provenc,al, Limosine, et al…)
> Italian (Florentine, Sicilian, et al…)
> Sardinian
> Rhaeto-Romansch (Romansch, et al…)
> Romanian (Romanian, Aromanian, Moldovan, et al…)
> Dalmatian [extinct language/dialects]
Where would you put Haitian?
maluhia,
Holoholona
In article <4045vq$…@usenet1.interramp.com> budrog…@interramp.com (Bud Rogers) writes:
>[...] I’ve never heard of Occitan in that context or any other.
>Can you relieve my ignorance?
See under http://www-ala.doc.ic.ac.uk/~rap/Ethnologue/wgt.cgi/ at
Indo-European/Romance/Italo-Western/Western/Ibero-Romance/North/Eastern/
— Olivier
Holoholona (bmo…@qualcomm.com) wrote:
: In article <405u8b$…@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, peab…@wam.umd.edu (Tired
: Royal Cone) wrote:
: > A refresher of the major groups (as I see them…):
: >
: > Portuguese (Continental, Brazilian, Galician, et al…)
: > Spanish (Castillan, Andaluz/Lat. Am., et al…)
: > Catalan (Barcelona, Valencia, Majorcan, et al…)
: > French (Wallonian, Parisian, et al…)
: > Occitan (Provenc,al, Limosine, et al…)
: > Italian (Florentine, Sicilian, et al…)
: > Sardinian
: > Rhaeto-Romansch (Romansch, et al…)
: > Romanian (Romanian, Aromanian, Moldovan, et al…)
: > Dalmatian [extinct language/dialects]
: >
: Where would you put Haitian?
Under the French section…
: maluhia,
: Holoholona
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–Reid
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"I’ve always been in love with you.
I guess you’ve always known it’s true.
You took my love for granted, why, oh why?
This show is over, say goodbye."
Madonna, "Take A Bow"
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gu…@clark.net (Harlan Messinger) wrote:
>Occitan = modern Provencal or Langue d’Oc, . . .
>I remember about 20 years ago Assimil had out a book Occitan Sans Peine.
>I have no idea if it’s still in print.
OK, I remember references to Langue d’oui and Langue d’oc. And I
remember Provencal in that context. I don’t remember mention of
Occitan, though.
Thanks,
Bud Rogers <budrog…@interramp.com>
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Though all my neighbors are barbarians
and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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peab…@wam.umd.edu (Tired Royal Cone) wrote:
>The term "Occitan" is used to describe all of the Southern Gaulo-Romance
>languages and dialects (Provenc,al, for one). The word comes from the
>distinction in the word "yes". French, and all its dialects are "Langue
>D’Oi"l" and the Occitan, and all its dialects, are "Langue D’Oc".
>hope this helped…
Thanks for the amplification. I remember Langue d’Oc and Langue
d’Oui, but I didn’t know there were so many languages or dialects in
the group. Thanks for the listing. My education continues in fits
and starts.
Bud Rogers <budrog…@interramp.com>
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Though all my neighbors are barbarians
and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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In <40ig7o$…@usenet1.interramp.com>, budrog…@interramp.com (Bud Rogers) writes:
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>gu…@clark.net (Harlan Messinger) wrote:
>>Occitan = modern Provencal or Langue d’Oc, . . .
>>I remember about 20 years ago Assimil had out a book Occitan Sans Peine.
>>I have no idea if it’s still in print.
>OK, I remember references to Langue d’oui and Langue d’oc. And I
>remember Provencal in that context. I don’t remember mention of
>Occitan, though.
>Thanks,
>Bud Rogers <budrog…@interramp.com>
Hi,
That book is still in print. But I’ll bet there are better ones.
j;6f; bLANC